[glow=green,2,300]They can steal a flag, but they can’t touch these!!![/glow]
Well, Porto’s act is quite… whorish let’s say. :liar: But here’s a bit the same situation with cska. There was a club before 1944 called AS-23 (est. 1923) and it’s “managers” were tzar (king’s) officers. After the arrival of communism in 1944 this team was disbanded by merging with another teams and the tzar officers were repressed. Later the merged one was renamed “cska”. Now cska pretend to be inheritors only of AS-23 (not the other clubs) and still having the commie pentagram in their logo… :-X
It’s honorable for you to still keep a bit later year of establishment bit the real one. :great: We are trying to do the same thing. Our founders met in 1911 with the idea of starting sport club and in it a football club. But because of wars in 1912 and 1913 they weren’t able to start the football club and found it in 1914. Still they’ve practiced some sports and it’s possible that the sport club might have been established in 1911 but the football club is in 1914, it’s what we insist.
During the last year we have returned a foreign flag which was forgotten on our stadium and one other was stolen by our fans in an unfair way. As you see we differ between ourselves a lot, even in the ultra mentality. Still it’s your choice whether to put an equal sign between all of us as you are the affected side. 
I wasn’t saying that you are all the same , but what some of you did was very coward :cartao:
It’s true, pluses and minuses are shared throughout us all, it’s part of the game.
Several banners were made and put on key places in Sofia claiming that our year of foundation is 1914, not 1911:
One history / 1914
Tara, the team belongs to the people, not to you (“Tara” is the nickname by which our president Todor Batkov worked during communism for the Committee for State Security; it’s the Bulgarian equivalent of KGB or Stasi)
History is one, don’t change it / 24.V.1914
Fuck Todor Batkov! :twisted:
Merry Christmas! Be happy and dont stop supporting Sporting Lisboa!
Merry Christmas to you too!! And, by the way, don´t say Sporting Lisboa, just Sporting (or Sporting Portugal or Sporting CP) :great:
Tchestita Koleda!
It’s incredible how active you are defending your club. I remember similar attitudes from Dinamo Zagreb or Panathinaikos’ fans.
Here we just sit and let things happen. We are a nation of well behaved cattle.
In 2001 the administration completely screwed our badge violating internal rules, not only changing the overall design but introducing the illegal yellow colour and a pair of stripes. People just shrugged their shoulders. Some even didn’t notice yet :lol: It makes me think that they could have put a dancing cat instead of a lion for all our supporters care.
As for what Nakamoura said, there are some supporters who frown at the informal foreign nickname Sporting Lisbon. I don’t appreciate that battle, it’s not healthy nor productive.
It’s a fact that in Portugal we are known as Sporting always and only, and it’s a fact that anything different from that sounds exotic to everyone including rivals, specially “Sporting Lisbon”.
You see, for many years of dictatorship we were a closed nation, isolated from the outside, so people were not aware of the international tradition of naming clubs after their home town even if it’s not part of the official name, but I perfectly understand and accept.
I value much more the struggle to keep history and symbols accurate and respected. In the last 15 years our club has been undergoing a process of internal defacement by an elite of white collar financial bastards and all we do is shrug our shoulders.
Only in Peace times , ask to the spanish :mrgreen:
Feliz Natal! 
Man you might not know but here the situation was absolutely the same. :o Besides our nation is a nation of well behaved sheep by the way. :lol:
In 1990-1991 we had to preregister our club, because after a fight between the players of Levski and cska in the 1985 Bulgarian cup final the two clubs were renamed and both started as a new society. Levski was “Vitosha” and after the fall of communism our management decided to get back our original name. But we, Bulgarians, plenty much enjoy envying each other and two managements pretended to be the original Levski. In fact the real one by mistake forgot to register our real logo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Levski_sofia_1990-1992.JPG) so they came up with a totally different version which we call “the shovel” (http://www.bfunion.bg/images/tema/2914.jpg). The original logo was registered by the fake management and for about 20 years we were unable to use it.
People didn’t care at all. Some even hated the old logo because “it had red in it and cska were red”. :o And this logo was created more than 20 years before the creation of cska (our first colours were red and yellow). In 2007 (17 years later!) we started a campaign to gain back our true logo and this campaign was initiated by 15-20 year old boys. Some older took part too. After posting much informing materials on the internet in June 2007 during one night we stuck posters throughout Sofia, Varna, Ruse and other big Bulgarian cities:
http://forum.levski.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6775
After that our management promised to gradually remove “the shovel” from use and now our true logo can be seen more often. ;D
As you see we were in your situation for a lot of time. We had the luck that the people who cared were united and for this we managed to succeed. But it took a lot of time and efforts.
So, you dislike your present logo? What was the previous? In wikipedia there are some pictures but too small to distinguish anything. 
We did succeed by returning our old and TRUE logo, but we are still using “the shovle”. For example at the official site of the club (which is very lame by the way ;D) at the top left corner “the shovle” stays. Anyway at other places the TRUE logo is used. Like the website of UEFA, on the electric switchboard at the stadium and beneath it. Much of the new scrafes that has benn producted are with the real one.
PS - Merry Christmas!
MERRY cHRISTMAS
Crowbar and Knoxville :great: :great:
Sometimes, the tongue of the lion in the old badge appeared red, and some people used to dislike that as well :lol:
I for once hate it because it looks like a baloon with the Adidas’ stripes and a lion on hepatitis. But worse than that it was approved in breach of our regulations and without consulting us members as demanded by the organic statutes.
By the way, the history of the yellow colour in our logo (orange to me) dates back to 1956 when a commemorative token was issued to represent the 50 years jubilee:
It reads “50 years at the service of sports and fatherland”. It was only a token, not a revamping of the logo, never used in the jerseys as far as we know. But in the 80’s and 90’s when scarfs started to appear, some merchandising (most of it unnoficial) appeared with a yellow lion erroneously attempting to imitate the golden token, as you can see in this pic:
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Wow, I see… Even now I think your present logo would be better if the lion was white. Combining green and yellow is a bit… agrarian. :lol: And your old one looks good, maybe the lion is too detailed but the graffiti-like sign is cool. :great:
Agrarian? you are being too nice! :lol:
Green and yellow is more like samba!!!
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That’s why I prefer seeing our new stadium at night. Prepare your eyes for the shock:
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By the way, what’s the deal with your stadium? I mean is there a specific occasion why it looks so eccentric with the seats in different colours?
Really cool view at night time, indeed. :great:
This is the greatest stadium in Bulgaria:
http://bgclubs.eu/images/cache/a/a6/a6c/a6ca/phpThumb_cache_bgclubs.eu_srca6cad07da8efd1ebd4c2bb9f9588cef9_par10f50eca695f4dd0aab3ed35a197abeb_dat1252852253.jpeg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/16141482.jpg
At night doesn’t get much better… :lol:
cska stadium is so close to the Vassil Levski Stadion :think:
The reason why our seats are the way they are it’s simple: the architect (f*ck him) is lampião (benfica supporter). Our Board, at the time, is guilty too, to allow that architect do what he wanted. Nowadays, we have lots of problems with our stadium. Besides being ugly, some part of the grass doesn’t get much sun as it should (because of the ceiling). Because of that, our picth is (mostly) too bad to play good football. And the problems continue, they are too much to describe them now… Oh, how I miss our old stadium…
If the we change the color of the chairs to green :drool: :drool:
Well, despite the fact that the architect is a benfica fan your stadium is still very beautiful. :great: Many other stadiums in Portugal that were used at EURO 2004 are also very nice. :great:
In Bulgaria we have very few nice stadiums. As I said in the previous pages only seven has working lights. Most of them are really nice. Crowbar already showed you the National Stadium here are the others:
Lazur stadium:
Situated on the coast in Burgas, where Balakov’s Chernomorets plays. Although he is not anymore their manager. Previously Naftex (the other team from Burgas) used to play on it, but they were expelled from there - very long story.
Lovech stadium:
This is the stadium of Litex (the mob team). In the last years they have become something like a rival to us and the matches with them have always been interesting. In the last three matches in all of them there was a fight between the players. :mrgreen: Every year the away games in Lovech are very well visited by us - about 1000 fans comes from Sofia and some other parts of the country. We will play with them in April both for the league (at home) and the cup (in Lovech :twisted:).
Pomorie stadium:
Also situated at the coast in the city of Pomorie. The club that owns the stadium is Chernomorets (Pomorie) currently plays in our 2nd division. This year (2010) they reached the Final of the Cup.
Kavarna stadium:
The stadium of Kaliakra Kavarna, who this year (2010) promoted to the 1st division for the first time in their history.
Every year there is a Rock Fest held in the city and the stadium is used as a ground for it. Famous bands like Manowar, Deep Purple, Scorpions and Black Sabbath have played here.