Está a selecção Portuguesa dependente da formação do Sporting?

Rui Patricio, Beto

Hugo Viana, Custodio, Moutinho, Veloso

Nani, CR7, Varela, Quaresma

10 em 23 convocados e 5 nos 11 Titulares

Pepe, Postiga, João Pereira que passaram por Alvalade.

Só prova o fenomenal trabalho realizado em Alcochete na formação de jogadores e a actual dependencia da selecção nacional da formação de Alcochete.

Nem Ajax, nem Barcelona, nem nenhum outro clube Europeu tem tantos jogadores formados nas suas escolas como o Sporting. O que mais se aproxima é o Barcelona com 9 jogadores formados.

Claro que está e lamentavelmente, o respeito e a gratidão que têm por nós é um zero redondo… é uma vergonha… :cartao:

nem mais!

Não ponham todos no mesmo pacote… Basta pensar em Nani. Acho que não encaixa nessa definição…CR também não…

Obviamente que sim


Daily Telegraph de hoje

Euro 2012: Portugal profit from ruthlessly efficient approach built on Sporting way

O reconhecimento vindo de fora perante uma evidência: esta selecção “é” o Sporting! Por cá, a selecção é o Nélson Oliveira!!!

Aqui fica o artigo completo:

[size=14pt][b]Euro 2012: Portugal profit from ruthlessly efficient approach built on Sporting way[/b][/size]

What got lost in the disarray of Dutch elimination on Sunday night was quite how good Portugal were.

By Duncan White 9:30PM BST 20 Jun 2012

When compared with those in orange it made for a striking contrast: Paulo Bento’s team played their counter-attacking game with tactical discipline, each player demonstrating a perfect understanding of what his role was in the system. They ruthlessly exploited the weaknesses of their opponents and if they had a top striker, could have run up a huge score.

Portugal are back in action today as strong favourites in their quarter-final with the Czech Republic in Warsaw; if they repeat the kind of performance they gave against the Dutch — in which the only flaw was the finishing — neither Spain nor France will be relishing a semi-final meeting.

It has been a remarkable achievement from Bento. Portugal are supposed to be in a fallow period after the retirement not only of the Golden Generation of Luis Figo and Rui Costa but of the group, including Deco and Ricardo Carvalho, that succeeded them.

Certainly, their shaky performances in qualifying behind Denmark suggested they would struggle to get out of the toughest group at the tournament.

The opening defeat by a very good German side showed signs that they were not going to go quietly. Only a late Manuel Neuer save from Silvestre Varela prevented an equaliser.

Bento calmly rode the criticism his supposedly negative tactics received from Figo and Costa back home. He had seen enough to encourage him. Sure enough, Denmark were beaten 3-2 in Lviv (Varela making up for that miss with the winner) and the Dutch pulled to pieces in Kharkiv.

How is it that Bento has got this Portuguese team playing such cohesive, diligent football? The answer lies in a place called Alcochete, outside Lisbon. It is the site of Sporting Lisbon’s academy and the birthplace of this Portugal team’s football philosophy. Just as Spain have drawn on Barcelona and Germany on Bayern Munich, the Portuguese have looked to Sporting’s remarkable talent school.

In 2002, Bento was a holding midfielder in the Sporting team that won the double under Laszlo Boloni. It was also the year the club opened the Academia Sporting for developing young players. It is a state-of-the-art facility with seven pitches and an on-site hotel for the players.

Sporting try to get players young, whether from the slums of Lisbon or by casting their scouting net wide, as they did in finding Cristiano Ronaldo on Madeira and Simao Sabrosa in the north of the country.

When found early enough, players are able to adapt to Sporting’s extraordinarily high technical standards. Off the pitch a team of tutors and child psychologists work on their educational development. The attention to detail is incredible: Ronaldo’s bone density was measured to see how tall he would get, and his training schedule was adjusted so as not to put too much strain on him during growth spurts.

When Bento retired from playing in 2004, he took over the youth team. He had played alongside graduates like Ricardo Quaresma, Custodio, Beto, Hugo Viana and Ronaldo and imbibed the Sporting way. He selected all five of those former team-mates in his squad for this tournament.

It was working with the next generation that Bento made his name as a coach. He won the youth title in 2005 and was promoted to first-team duties the following season. It was thought to be a short-term appointment but so successful was he that by the time he resigned in 2009 he was the second-longest serving coach in the club’s history.

The team was built around the players he had nurtured in the youth team. Rui Patricio was promoted as goalkeeper, Joao Moutinho came in as playmaker, Miguel Veloso as holding midfielder, and Nani was brought through to replace Ronaldo on the wing. With this group Bento oversaw four consecutive second-place finishes, two Portuguese Cup victories and Sporting’s first progress beyond the group stages of the Champions League.

Those Sporting players make up the core of the Portugal squad.

Out of the 23, Bento picked 10 graduates to take with him to Poland and Ukraine (Varela also came through the Sporting system) and the Sporting way, albeit with a Bento twist, has been the reason behind their success.

Five of the starting XI are Sporting graduates while Joao Pereira, the right back, and Helder Postiga, the striker, have also played for the club.

The team play 4-3-3, with clearly defined roles for the midfield triangle. The No 4 — Veloso — plays more horizontally, covering when team-mates get forward and serving as the fulcrum of play. The No 8 — Raul Meireles — plays more vertically, trying to get from box to box. The No 10 — Moutinho — has the freedom to make the play, to roam between the lines and unpick the defence with his passes.

The Bento twist is to play with a bit more emphasis on defensive solidity than most Portuguese are comfortable with. His Sporting teams were sometimes criticised for being functional so it was no surprise that he faced the same thing after the German defeat.

Yet Bento is clearly playing to the strengths of his players. He is not being negative but simply seeing how much more dangerous Ronaldo and Nani are when attacking the broken lines of the opposition on the counter. If the Czechs get sucked too far up the pitch it will be very hard to resist Portugal’s transitional play.

At 43 Bento is a young coach, ceding two decades to many of his rivals, but in selecting players who he has played with or coached since they were teenagers he has forged a team with a strong identity. The question now is how much further he can lead them into this tournament. The Czechs face an unenviable task this evening.

Quando até alguns sportinguistas se estão a cagar pra seleção (e para o facto de metade dela ter saido da academia), querias o que? ::slight_smile:

Sem o Sporting esta selecção estava ao nível da Polónia ou da Ucrânia.

nota: e faço parte dos Sportinguistas que se esta a cagar para a seleção

O Manuel Fernandes só esteve um ano na academia de Alcochete, depois foi brincar apara as meninas do Seixal.

Mais um artigo

Esta seleção está completamente dependente da formação do Sporting!

Mais uma vez , hoje ficou provado


Com tanto artigo na imprensa internacional, mas um motivo para que cada jogador com o selo Academia Sporting seja vendido ao preço que isso representa: qualidade Sporting. Vender ao preço da uva mijona, retira valor, prestígio e degrada a imagem da marca Sporting.

Fica aqui todo o artigo:

[b]Relentless Lisbon academy gives Portugal a Sporting chance[/b]

Ask most football fans outside of Portugal to name two Portuguese football clubs and they are likely to reply “Benfica and FC Porto.” Unless they are from a younger age bracket. In that case they would probably say “FC Porto and Benfica.”

This is a painful but unavoidable truth for fans of Sporting Clube de Portugal, commonly referred to as Sporting Lisbon. A powerhouse of Portuguese football from the inception of the league through to the 1960s, the stark reality is that the Lions have won the domestic title just twice in the last 30 years.

Nevertheless, in one area of the game Sporting are peerless, not only in Portugal, but arguably throughout the whole of Europe. The club’s Alcochete academy on the other side of the River Tagus to Lisbon has churned out a quite astonishing number of dazzling talents and has become the lifeblood of the Selecção.

Luís Figo, Nani and Cristiano Ronaldo are just three of a non-stop production line of magnificent wingers. Two others spawned from the same school - Ricardo Quaresma and Silvestre Varela - are part of the current Portugal squad in Poland and Ukraine.

But there’s more. Of the Portugal side that has started in each of the first three group matches at Euro 2012, five are Alcochete products.

While Ronaldo and Nani have been earning all the plaudits, especially after their wondrous displays against the Netherlands, midfielders João Moutinho and Miguel Veloso are just as deserving of praise. Neither put a foot wrong in an exhilarating team performance that obliterated the Dutch. Veloso, sitting in front of the defence, did an expert job (for the third match running) cutting off the supply line to the opposition forwards.

Moutinho was as industrious as ever and his superb passing came to the fore in this match as he combined beautifully with both Ronaldo and Nani throughout the ninety minutes. I invite you to look again at Moutinho’s transport of the ball in setting up Ronaldo’s first chance that ended up hitting the post, and the slide-rule pass that released Nani on his way to setting up Ronaldo’s winner. Beauty in simplicity.

Today, on the eve of Portugal’s quarter-final against the Czech Republic, the selfless FC Porto midfielder was asked to give his opinion on Cristiano Ronaldo. Part of his answer provided a perfect description of Moutinho himself: “He’s simply a great player who puts all his talent at the service of the team.”

The intense Sporting connection to this particular Portugal side does not stop there. Coach Paulo Bento was given his break in club management in 2005 when Sporting decided to hand him first-team duties after he had led the youth team to the championship. He immediately promoted Nani, Veloso, Moutinho and goalkeeper Rui Patrício to the senior side. They are now all regulars for the national team.

A couple of years prior to that Bento had played alongside the raw but extravagantly talented Ronaldo and Ricardo Quaresma in the green and white of Sporting in the twilight of his career. “Paulo Bento has exactly the same personality and character now as when he was a player,” Ronaldo confided shortly after Bento had become national team coach in September 2010.

This helps explain why Bento commands the utmost respect from his players, a respect that could have been extinguished in weaker personalities after high-profile fall-outs with veterans José Bosingwa and Ricardo Carvalho during the Euro 2012 qualification campaign.

That and his straight talking. “We are not entering a state of euphoria. We’re happy and proud of what we have done so far and we had our moment to celebrate. Afterwards, we rested and focused on preparing for what lies ahead. Which is nothing more than a chance to reach the semi-finals,” said Bento today.

Should Portugal make further progress, fans of Sporting Clube de Portugal will once again feel that, while they may struggle for silverware, it is their club that has done more than any other to bring success to the national team.

Esta é a maior arma que o Sporting tem ao seu dispor no combate contra a podridão do futebol português. Boicote total dos nossos jogadores à selecção nacional em todos os escalões até sermos respeitados internamente.

É da maneira que eles começam a deixar de querer vir para o Sporting, e deixamos de os formar…

É pena não segurarmos por mais ano ou dois jogadores como Cristiano Ronaldo e Quaresma. Podiam ter sido bem mais proveitosos tanto desportiva como financeiramente, pois ainda seriamos nessa lógica de um ano ou dois, detentores do passe do Cristiano no Euro’04… :think: :think:

parece-me que esta lembrança se adequa ao tópico, sobretudo se considerarmos todas as seleções…que de facto dependem da formação do Sporting:

  • amanhã pelas 18,45 (hora tuga) a seleção sub-19 inicia a participação na fase final do euro-sub-19 (Estónia x Portugal)…directo no Eurosport.
    Só não sabemos quantos jogadores desta seleção ainda pertencem ao Sporting…esperemos que ainda sejam muitos.